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I never comment on things, but I've been thinking about this most of the weekend. This is a good piece, and I agree with your central thesis about the importance of the unheralded pop music of this era - and the sheer number of tracks and artists that should have been huge. I'd also add Yeasayer to this canon - I think 'O.N.E' should have been a big hit!

If I can add a few things to the mix:

1. I'm a Brit, and I'd argue there is an important Anglo angle not in the piece and a crucial bridge we had between the "indie sleaze" and the seam of electronic pop of which you speak. That is the short lived genre of "nu rave" - Klaxons, New Young Pony Club, and CSS for example. These were broadly guitar bands that started to incorporate electronics - and were designed to be heard in indie clubs. They were very much still bands playing to 'alternative' NME-reading crowd, but I reckon they lay the groundwork for some of the more pop acts that followed (at least UK ones). I think it's telling that long before becoming Blood Orange Dev Hynes was in a nu rave-ish band (Test Icicles)... and Lovefoxxx from CSS went on to do the vocals on Nightcall. I reckon it was this milieu that went on to create the conditions for the pop of La Roux - who in Britain at least - had some real mainstream success with the sound you are talking about.

2. I also think there is a stronger Gallic angle beyond Phoenix and Kavinsky. Arguably Daft Punk were laying the groundwork for some of this long before, but Justice were quite important in setting the stage for this spund I'd say. More importantly, I really think that Christine and the Queens' 'Tilted' was probably the best pop song of the 2010s. Obviously it's a popular song, but it should have taken them stratospheric. Has that same 'outside off this timeline sound.

3. I'm not sure I quite agree that "Sharon Van Etten, Alex G, Angel Olsen, Men I Trust, Mitski, Soccer Mommy, Phoebe Bridgers, and The War on Drugs" continue this spirit in the same way that Charli XCX or Caroline Polachek do. I love them all and think they should all be much more famous, but I don't quite see them in this lineage. But that's a minor quibble.

I'd never heard of 120 Minutes before this piece, and perhaps we might have a slightly stronger institutional setup for canonisation of this sort of music in the UK thanks to BBC 6 Music and reruns of Later...with Jools Holland - but broadly the same situation applies about the unrecognised legacy of all of this. Again, great piece.

Nicolas Lebrun's avatar

Reading this and listening along to the music mentioned made me feel like I was levitating. Thank you!

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